This was a very surprising and interesting interview to come across. Jakob is knowledgeable and adept in navigating the slippery terrain of his old professor who is both a brilliant and newly convinced beaver convert AND a fairly distrustful Bundy-esque nay sayer who is used to having his word be the last word, I can imagine that if you were lucky enough to be in his course you would have days where you learned a ton, admired the heck out of him and days where you hated most of his guts and thought about dropping out. Not necessarily in that order.
The end result is a fantastic marathon interview, especially the first half and with a heaping dose of respect for Jakob Shokey who knows by heart the first lesson of saving beavers: you can’t only talk to people that you agree with or agree with you, I can’t embed the interview so you’ll have to click on the link but it’s mostly worth it,
Beavers? Bret Weinstein Speaks with Jakob Shockey on the Darkhorse Podcast
Jakob Shockey, founder of the Beaver Coalition, has spent years researching and working to preserve, restore, and understand beaver habitats. He discusses with Bret the rarely discussed impacts of Beavers on all aspects of our world, and how we have thrown this equilibrium out of balance by trapping beavers and industrializing north America with little regard for preserving the factors that made it as hospitable as it has been.