I listened to it yesterday and it’s not a terrible interview. The sound quality isn’t the best but other than the perryweather from marin and the GIVE a dam it covers fairly relevant ground in a focused way. Feel free to harken if you’re curious. I remembered yesterday that Worth A Dam donated 500 dollars to the Wildlife Services suit over beavers and salmon, so basically I paid to be called the wrong name if you think about it.
Tom says WS hasn’t even responded to the threat of suit because of the government shutdown. Which is just another way that it stinks.